Writing
takes many forms and today’s interview explores the world of the documentary film
in this interview with the multi-talent filmmaker Joyce Marie Fitzpatrick.
She
numbers among her credits, work for ABC, NBC, CW/UPN, BET, E! Entertainment,
PBS and the Discovery Channel. Her documentaries include the award-winning “Sunshine,
Noodles and Me” a heart-warming Cancer
documentary and “Discovering Mary” about
Mary Fields, the first black woman in the old West who drove through the
Montana trails to deliver the mail for the U.S. Postal Service.
When did you first realize you wanted to be involved in film
making?
I knew at
a very early age (around 7 years old) that I wanted to be involved in
filmmaking. I didn’t know a lot about how to make movies or TV, I just knew
that I enjoyed watching them. Growing up in Indianapolis, Indiana, there were
only 3 network channels and 2 independent channels, so there weren’t many
options. We had one local channel that showed movies starting at 8 am, "The
Early Morning Movie," "The Mid-Morning Movie," “The Early
Afternoon Movie", etc. You get the picture. This went on all day until television
signed off around 3 am. So, I could literally watch TV all day!
This
allowed me to see classic Hitchcock, Cecil B. Demille movies, musicals,
exploitation films of the 70’s, romantic comedies, westerns, and mysteries. I
also loved watching our hometown’s ridiculous local horror show that came on
every Friday night called, “Sammy Terry’s Nightmare Theater. I learned a lot of
useless trivia that is stuck in my head, even today about film and television. It
was a wonderful time to be a kid.
What made
the final decision for me to be involved with film and TV was watching the 1970’s show, “The Brady Bunch.” One afternoon I asked my mother, "Why don't I see
shows like this with black families?" She didn’t really have an answer for
me, and that’s when I made up my mind to tell stories of black lives that
pretty much mirrored everything I saw on television and in film.
How does your career as a filmmaker influence other areas of your
life and vice versa?
As a
filmmaker and a story teller, film has influenced my life by allowing me to go
places that I thought I never would like Malaysia or Montana, and to meet
people of different cultures and backgrounds, and it also teaches me to be a
better person. Co-directing and writing the documentary about Breast Cancer
called, "Sunshine, Noodles and Me" starring Cheryl Ash-Simpson,
introduced me to the story of a woman who found out 3 days before she was to
wed that she had breast cancer and that she had to adjust dealing with her
treatment while living in Malaysia, where her husband landed a new job. It
really opened my eyes to the disease and also to life in Malaysia, Tokyo, and
Hong Kong. I learned a lot about Cancer, and when I was diagnosed myself, one
year later while doing the film, that knowledge helped me cope with my journey
and gave me courage to film my own experience for my new documentary – “Cancer
is Just Another Word That Begins with the Letter C,” which I co-directed and
wrote with my partner, Brian Shackelford. We are in post-production right now
on that film. It covers a completely difference aspect of the disease from a
health and wellness aspect. Being a filmmaker can take you on many paths that
you might not explore on your own.
You’ve done a number of successful documentaries. What drew you to
that particular type of work?
I started
my career as a music video director. As I gained more experience it took me in
a few different directions. I started doing promos for the PBS affiliate in Los
Angeles, then I started producing independent short films and writing scripts. I
was somewhat a “Jack of all Trades”! Then I joined cable network television as
a producer and although my jobs were rewarding financially, they weren't
rewarding emotionally or intellectually. I love to research subjects and
people, and I love to read, so when I would see interesting stories about
historic places or people, I delved deeper into their stories out of curiosity
to learn more about them.
That’s
how I ran across the story of "Black Mary" or "Stagecoach Mary,”
as most people know her. I read an article about her in an old EBONY magazine
that I found at a thrift store, and it intrigued me so much, that I became
obsessed with learning more about her. My interest led to many months in the
public library, online, and reading numerous books. I talked about her so much,
that one day a good friend of mine, told me that I needed to go to Montana to
learn more about this woman, because everyone who lived in Cascade Montana
where she was from, basically worshiped this woman. The friend that told me
about her, went to great Falls, Montana every year and told me that was where
she learned about Mary Fields herself.
So, I
decided to go to Montana, and that's when I made the documentary,
"Discovering Mary." I met the ONLY living witness who
actually met her and he was 94 at the time. I am the only person who, to this
day, had the last interview with this man who has probably passed on now He
was born in Cascade, Montana, and his father was the 2nd Mayor of the town of
Cascade at the time when they still called bars “Saloons” which Mary was
allowed to enter as the only woman and the only black person in town to do so. This
part of Mary’s history was shown in an episode of AMC’s “Hell on Wheels” where
they combined two stories about her life. One where she actually knocked out a
man for not paying a bill of $2.50 cents for laundry that she did for him when
she owned her Launderette in Cascade, and the story of her being the only
female who was allowed in a saloon in Cascade. It was exciting to see her story
told on a hit cable show.
What led you to do your current subject of the Homer G. Phillips
Hospital?
I have to credit Facebook for
connecting me to so many people from my past, and that is how I became
connected to this powerful story about Homer G.
Phillips hospital. A woman reached out to me via Facebook and told me she
knew me from my childhood and it turned out that I actually used to babysit
this woman. I was a young child of 12 and she was around 4 or 5 years old. When
we re-connected it was strange because it was the first time I had ever heard
her using full sentences. It’s was a lot to absorb at first, but now we talk
all of the time and I think of her as a little sister. Her name is Rebecca
Robinson-Williams and her family, and my family were next door neighbors. Her
father, Dr. Earle U. Robinson Jr., was a friend of my parents and also our
family physician. When I spoke to Dr. Robinson, I found out that his father, who
I also met as a child, had an amazing legacy in American history!
His father was one of the first 28
interns to work at one of the United States premier hospitals, Homer G.
Phillips in St. Louis Missouri. This hospital existed because a political
activist attorney named Homer G. Phillips lobbied to acquire $3 million dollars
of an $87 million-dollar bond to build a state-of-the-art hospital that would
provide adequate medical facilities and service the under-served black community
called, “The Ville.”
What is so intriguing about this story
is the attorney Homer G. Phillips was murdered before the hospital was
completed, which is an amazing story unto itself, but makes telling this story
so important. Homer G. Phillips never saw this hospital open, but because of
his work, blacks in the community received the medical help that they needed
and by medical professionals that looked like them! The hospital was built and opened in 1937,
staying open through desegregation until 1979, when it was closed despite
protests by the community. The hospital has since been remodeled and used as a
living facility for seniors in St. Louis. Homer G. Philips should never be
forgotten for what he did for the city of St. Louis Missouri’s black
population.
What would you like the audience to take from the Homer G.
Phillips Hospital film?
I want
the audience to watch our documentary and see the accomplishments and disappointments
and challenges that running a black hospital went through during the turbulent
times in our American history of racism, segregation, desegregation and how
even now, Missouri is still a hot-bed of controversy. Look at the situation in
Ferguson. This hospital has been featured in numerous publications and was
featured in the book, “The Warmth of Other Suns” by Isabel Wilkerson which won
her a Pulitzer Prize and I believe is being turned into a television
mini-series. This film has a rich history and there are numerous doctors and
nurses who worked at Homer G. Phillips who have migrated all over the United
States and their children and grandchildren need to see this story to know what
their ancestors have given to American History and to Black History. This story
is truly another “Hidden Figures.”
What are your current/future projects?
I have
several current projects in development right now. Some for television and some
for the theater. As I stated, my Cancer documentary is in post-production. I am
also working on several narrative films and scripted dock-series for cable. I
am very busy and sometimes don’t know how I can juggle it all, but I do.
How do you go about researching the
subjects of your films?
I
research my projects by internet, books, actual witnesses’ accounts of
subjects, historical events, etc. If it peaks my interest and I find myself
just exploring it on my free time, then I know that I should look into it
further, and that’s when I pursue turning my discoveries into something viable.
Also, as I stated before, social media has been great for finding projects as
well. People find me on social media and pitch me ideas. Some good, some bad,
but they pitch me all the same.
What challenges did you face in getting
this film made?
The film
is currently in production and the biggest challenge we’ve faced is finding
physicians, nurses, and personnel who are still available to tell us more about
this historic hospital. It’s been a great experience putting the word out about
the hospital, but it’s been a daunting task gathering the information as it is
with most documentaries. We are doing our best and we will keep at it to
complete the film.
Finishing
funds have also been a challenge as it is with most films, and we are currently
hosting an Indiegogo Crowd Source Funding campaign to garner funds to help
complete this film. As the executive producer, I have been funding it myself
along with Dr. Robinson and his’ family and friends and my other producing and
directing team. This is an expensive project, but we’ve been doing our best,
and we really need help to finish it. It will be such a powerful and
informative film that needs to be shared with the public, and I hope people
will look into their hearts and pocket books and see that this story needs to be
made and shared. Those who see this film will realize how important it has been
in helping to shape our current and future medical professionals’ careers, and
show that their opportunities have possibly grown and we hope have been
enriched by standing on the shoulders of these pioneers!
Are there certain themes or ideas you
prefer?
I do love
unique and different stories. I’m not into romantic movies or war movies. I
love mysteries, comedies, sci-fi, westerns, and horror! I’ve created several
projects under those themes. Those are my favorite genres.
Who’s been the greatest influence on
your career?
Wow! That’s hard to say…I’ve been influenced by
many in the arts, but I will have to say that James Cameron is someone who I
truly admire. I first fell in love with his work on ‘The Terminator” because
when I saw that movie in the theater, it made me go out and buy my first CJ7
jeep in 1985, while I was in college! I’ve also liked other films that he’s
done, but that is my favorite.
I admire
several writers, but the one writer who stands out for me is Leslie Dixon, I
LOVE her work! It’s so diverse and she can go from campy like “Outrageous
Fortune” to quirky love story like “Overboard” to sci-fi like “Limitless.” She’s
amazing to me. But I also love classic story telling like “To Kill a
Mockingbird” and one of my all-time favorites movies is “Arsenic and Old Lace”
starring Cary Grant! I can go on and on with the films that have influenced me
throughout my life.
What's one piece of advice you'd like
to pass on to my readers who aspire to a career in the film industry?
Learn the
craft of storytelling. Story is the most important element of filmmaking. If
the story is boring, slow or just not worthwhile, then no matter how much money
you throw at it, you won’t save it. Also learn by action not theory. I’ve met
so many people who watch others and think they can just go do it. But I’ve
learned by experience good and bad. You have to fail to do better, there is
just no other way. So go out and fail and you’ll be successful!!!
Anything else you'd like readers to
know?
Please
check out our Indiegogo campaign at this link:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-color-of-medicine-homer-g-phillips-hospital/x/7619488#/ or click HERE.
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enjoy the trailer, please donate $5, the cost of a cup of coffee, or at least
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either share it or donate to it as well. Also if any of your readers want to
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